Saturday, 30 June 2012

Nerf Longshot vs Longstrike


This is a comparison of Nerf's two sniper rifles - the Longshot and Longstrike.


Aesthetics:
The Longstrike and Longshot vary in looks, but they both look awesome. The Longshot resembles a sci-fi energy rifle, while the Longstrike resembles a conventional sniper rifle. IMO they both look awesome.
Accessories:
The Longstrike comes with itself, the barrel extension, the flip up sight, and a 6-clip (mags).
The Longshot comes with itself, the barrel extension, the scope, and a 6-clip (mags).
The Longshot wins this round because it is 2 blasters in one - the barrel extension is a secondary blaster.
Power/Range:
The Longshot, stock gets 10-12m ranges.
The Longstrike only gets 8-9m.
The Longshot uses a direct plunger system (which is massive) while the Longstrike has a reverse plunger system (which is small).
Obviously the Longshot wins this round.
Accuracy:
Both blaster get reasonably good accuracy for clip (mag) system blasters. This is achieved through the long barrels of both blasters. Like all other clip (mag) system blasters, however, their accuracy wavers.
This round is a draw.
Usability:
The Longshot and Longstrike share a priming system. Both are bolt action and even have the same bolt handles. However, there are a few key differentiating details on these blasters.
The Longstrike uses a flip-up iron sight and also has built-in iron sights. The Longshot has no built in iron sight and the scope only has a single reference point (only one reticle), making it more difficult to use.
The Longshot's jam door is partially obstructed by the carry handle/tac rail, while the Longstrike's jam door is easy to access and use.
The Longshot's stock is also variable, while the Longstrike's stock is far more sturdy (non-adjustable), and thus more useful. The Longstrike's stock also holds 2 clips (mags) as opposed to the Longshot's one. However, the Longstrike can only hold 6 clips (mags), while the Longshot's stock can hold any clip (mag).
IMO the Longstrike is better in usage, so the Longstrike wins this round.
Rate of fire:
Because the Longshot and Longstrike share the same bolt action system, they share the same ROF of 1.5-2dps.
Obviously this round is a draw.
Capacity:
Both the Longshot and Longstrike only come with a single 6 clip (mag), thus have the same capacity.
This round is another draw.
Value for Money/Availability:
Both the Longshot and Longstrike are available for the same price, in a number of stores. However, the key factor here is that the Longshot is now discontinued, thus the Longstrike wins this round.

Overall: The Longshot has won 2 rounds, the Longstrike 2, with 3 draws. IMO the Longshot is the better blaster in general usage, but the Longstrike is more comfortable to use.

33 comments:

  1. YEA!!! LONGSHOT

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  2. screw that go longstrike

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  3. Longshot beats Longstrike, but white-out series Longstrike beats longshot

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    1. definetly. plus the LStrke has one more mag holder

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  4. Modified longshot = 115 feet
    Modified longstrike = 65 feet

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    1. Actually, a BBLS can get far beyond 115 feet. My BBLS with 8kg load can get 40m (~131 feet), and 8kg would be considered 'weak' for a Longshot. Most BBLS owners/users use 14kg or more, and that combination can break 160 feet. Using insane springs (20kg+) you can get past 200 feet with a BBLS.
      On the other hand, a Brass Breeched Longstrike can only get 70-80 feet with a 5-6kg spring. Such a low spring load compared to the Longshot is because they are the strongest springs you can get without manufacturing your own springs.

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  5. My blue Longshot came with two clips.

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    1. This is a review of the yellow longshot, as indicated by the picture. The blue longshot was discontinued long before even outback nerf was conceived.

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  6. I like how fair this article is and how it doesn't complain about anything like a fanboy. I'd have to say longstrike, but that's only because I wasn't around/interested in Nerf when the longshot came out.

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  7. to be honest my longstrike has the same power as my longshot and both are not modified both can shoot at least 50-60 feet but sometimes my Lstrike and Lshot can fire a little further

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  8. I would just choose longstrike because I prefer iron sights and usability is important. Also I think it looks more techy

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  9. If Anyone Saws This Mensage, Pleaze Reply...
    Wich Nerf Sould I Buy? Theres a new kind of nerfs, the elite, but i love those too, the long-shot/strike, but the elite are beter, what sould i do??

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    1. It depends on what you're looking for with a Nerf blaster.
      If you're just looking for a fun blaster and don't care for practicality, pick the one that you think looks most fun.
      If you're an avid modder, Retaliator and Longshot are better.
      If you're not a modder, any of the Elites will be fine, depending on the way you play.

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  10. i was gonna get a long shot but r they really discontinued

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    1. Yes, they are discontinued. With a lot of luck you might find one in a store, but that's unlikely.

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    2. ok thanks man i got a retailiator anyways cause it says it goes longer than the long strike

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  11. i need help with a retailiator 12 dart clip.when u put all the darts in the orange thing that pushes the darts up gets stuck and wont push the darts up so does anyone know how to fix it cause i only got the gun about a week ago so im really pissed that it broke already so anyone who knows how to fix it or make it better please reply because it will really help. thanks

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    1. The next time you post a question this long, please split it up into short and simple sentences, because 4 sentences stuck together is terribly hard to read and understand, especially without commas.
      Additionally please also comment on a relevant post. You are having a problem with the Retaliator, but this post is about Longshot vs Longstrike. A much better choice would have been to post on the Retaliator review.
      Anyway, on to your problem.
      One thing that comes to mind first is the loading of the darts. If you push them forward, so far that the tips touch the front wall of the clip, the tips of the darts will cause enough friction to stop the clip from advancing. Assuming that's not the problem, then it would either be the darts somehow catching on the walls of the clip (highly unlikely), the spring somehow getting dislodged from its normal position (again, highly unlikely), or the clip just having a manufacturing defect of some kind (much, much more likely).
      Try pushing it down with a pencil and letting it spring back up. If that fails, then it's 99% chance some kind of strange problem with the spring, or the dart pusher is messed up and catch against the walls of the clip.

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  12. Heya,

    I'm shopping for a blaster, and the Longshot and the Longstrike both seem like they might be a good option. Let me explain what I'm using it for, and maybe you can help me choose one of them (or maybe something else entirely).

    So, I'm going to be participating in a weekend-long zombie hunt. Setting is post-apocalyptic United States sometime in the distant future (though civilization came crumbling down in the near future). The game is on 24/7 for two days, and there's a class system in place. I chose the hunter/sniper class, which means I get to follow special rules when I use a Nerf rifle, provided I'm acting like a hunter/sniper. What I need is accuracy and range, in that order, though both are very important.

    I'm new to the modding scene, but I'm perfectly happy to get my hands dirty and have found some pretty decent guides online. I can purchase the Longshot on eBay for pretty cheap, so availability isn't an issue. So, with that in mind, what would you suggest? Any attachments you'd recommend as well?

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    1. Since you're talking about HvZ, I'll assume you have to use stock darts, because if not then an overhauled brass breeched Longshot with stefans will get you power and accuracy you're looking for.

      In stock form the Longshot and Longstrike are inferior to Elite blasters, as they hail from the N-Strike era which is inferior in stock firepower to the Elite era. For stock blasters, the two choices that come to mind that are readily available nowadays are the Retaliator and Mega Centurion.
      The Retaliator is a decently powerful, surprisingly accurate blaster with an acceptable capacity. It is basically the jack-of-all-trades of the Elite line thanks to its good performance, priming and firing mechanism and modularity. Though other Elite blasters do share similar performances, I feel that the Retaliator is superior as a rifle because from my experience, it has superior accuracy to the others.
      Attachments on the Retaliator, I'd recommend the Retaliator barrel as for mine at least it seems to help stabilise the Elite darts a lot. A sturdy stock would be great, such as the Raider stock or LightningStorm stock, as they will help stabilise your shots a lot. Besides that, whatever other attachments you're comfortable using and aiming with.
      The Centurion on the other hand is simply designed to fling its Mega darts as far as safely possible for a stock blaster. Though I haven't actually used one (as I never intend to get one), I have read many of the reviews on it and can thus give some pointers. On its good shots a Centurion does exceed the ranges of Elite blasters, however its accuracy and consistency are terribly lacking. Though the darts do reach high ranges, they don't fly straight and often veer off far from the line of firing. Additionally, the Centurion is notorious for jamming, with its breech getting chipped away through by-the-manual use, and its darts being shredded upon jams, rendering them unusable. There is also the problem of Mega clips not being sold separately, and Mega darts being ridiculously expensive. I haven't even gotten to its ridiculous size or huge prime, or its tendency to stop working if you're unlucky after just a few shots. In all circumstances besides pure aesthetics, I'd say steer well away from the Centurion unless you are desparate for the lucky long shot, but if you're that keen on a sniper blaster then go ahead.
      Attachments for the Centurion, I'd probably have to recommend its included bipod to help stabilise that 1m long piece of junk, and besides that just a sight of your choice. Remember that the sight is not for precision shots, but rather just to help you aim, as stock Nerf blasters are too weak to use sights effectively.

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    2. As for modded blasters, the best dart ones you could get that would fill the role of precision rifle are probably the Longshot and Retaliator (again).
      The Longshot is pretty obvious, a huge direct plunger means huge power with a good upgrade spring. Obviously the prime will be made harder, so you have to reinforce the boltsled if you're going to upgrade the spring. Additionally more power will make darts fly out more erratically. Thus to compensate you'll probably want to use a long barrel to make the darts more stable. It'll cut down severely on power but at least you might be able to hit people. Therefore you'll want to use something like the Longshot Front Gun for a barrel, or possibly something even longer if you find darts are still behaving erratically. For a longer barrel you'll have to make your own from PVC or whatever wide pipe is available. Get the right combination of a powerful spring and a long enough barrel though and you could start firing out Elite darts reasonably accurately. The fact though is that stock Nerf darts are inherently inaccurate so you'll never get perfect accuracy. If you want sheer firepower, the Longshot is definitely the way to go.
      If you're willing to have powerful, compact firing at the cost of an even harder prime, the Retaliator is a suitable option. With the correct barrel and the right spring, the Retaliator can fire Elite darts at quite a reasonable range with surprising accuracy. Compared to the Longshot the Retaliator must use a more powerful spring to achieve the same range, but it's a lot smaller and lighter, which can be a huge advantage in HvZ.
      Since I personally don't consider the Retaliator to really be a precision rifle type blaster, I'd go for a Longshot if clip system is your thing.

      If you're more open to other options besides clip system blasters, there are a few high power blasters that would work as precision blasters, even with stock darts. Nitefinders, Firestrikes and other single shots with reasonably sized direct plungers can fire Suction darts and Whistlers a good distance with surprising accuracy, with a rebarrel and spring upgrade. Of course, they're not capable of firing multiple shots quickly as they're single shots, but they have accuracy superior to that of Elite dart firing clip system blasters, and can have great ranges. There are a number of other powerful blasters out there that would work the same way as these single shots, each with their own strengths and weaknesses.

      So in summary, if you're willing to risk the inaccuracy of Elite darts then the Longshot or Retaliator will probably best suit your needs. The Longstrike doesn't have anywhere near the same power as the Longshot or any of the Elites because it uses the N-Strike reverse plunger. It only has the looks, so if you're really intent on using the Longstrike, you'll have to replace its internals with something with more power, like Elite direct plungers. If accuracy is an absolute must, then something like a Nitefinder, Firestrike, Lanard Tripleshot converted into a Quadshot will be your best bet, as they can use Whistlers, Suctions and Dart Taggers which are far more accurate than the horrid Elite and Streamline darts. Though they don't have the rapid fire and fast reload ability of clip system blasters, they have the accuracy you're looking for.

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  13. Alright, sounds good. Although actually, it's NOT HvZ, though it's similar in a lot of ways. Instead, it's something called Dystopia Rising. Modded darts are fine, so long as they're still made of soft materials. Accuracy is the most important consideration, followed by range (it does need to have a longer range than the average blaster). With that clarification included, would your advice change?

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    1. Not really. All modded darts do is improve the accuracy of all blasters, while the range changes depending on the power of the blaster and the make of the darts. Nevertheless, all the blasters I mentioned earlier will still be able to achieve above averange range, depending on what the average range is and how crazy the participants are.

      My blaster recommendations don't change, since they are all capable of a good mix of accuracy and range, but the darts you use will entirely depend on what blaster you decide to use. Pick/create the dart for the blaster, not blaster for the dart. It's more important that you are comfortable with the blaster you are using, not you like a certain type of ammo.

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  14. i buy longshot secondhand last year, its still in good condition, now i upgrade it with xplorer, very good blaster, my longstrike very weak now, i want to mod my longstrike but it was reverse plunger.... same like mega centurion, i take the barrel equip it on my rayven, i love this two blaster

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  15. hi, I know I'm getting a long shot but... what clip should I get 4 six shot clips or 2 12 shot clips?

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    1. 12 clips are far better than 6 clips for practical use.

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  16. Anyone know what a fair price would be to sell secondhand Longshot cs-6 (yellow & orange colour). Not sure if I should just take a low offer or stick it out as it could be a collectable? In Australia btw

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    1. Somewhere around 25-40 for a full blaster depending on condition I think. Longshots are not in high demand and there are quite a lot of them around so I wouldn't expect too much.

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